Big Green: Non-building green projects

Craig Kneeland cek at nyserda.org
Thu Jun 12 11:00:34 EDT 2008




Has anyone had experience with the development of or been an advocate
for a green project that does not include an enclosed building space?

Roxie,

The Sustainable Design Guidelines for the World Trade Center include
information on a number of green features that are not within buildings.
The web address is
http://www.renewnyc.com/content/pdfs/Cultural_Sustainable_Design_Guidelines.pdf.


The reference manual for these guidelines is unique among similar products
because it includes background information on why issues are important and
how requirements have evolved over time:
http://www.renewnyc.com/plan_des_dev/design_guidelines_manual.asp.

Craig Kneeland, LEED AP
Senior Project Manager
New York State Energy Research and Development Authority
17 Columbia Circle
Albany, NY 12203-6399
Phone 518-862-1090 x 3311
Fax: 518-862-1091
www.nyserda.org

Craig Kneeland is a member of the Green Guide for Health Care (GGHC)
Steering Committee. The GGHC is the first and only sustainable design,
construction, and operations toolkit tailored to the health care industry.
For more information, visit www.gghc.org.
                                                                           
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Today's Topics:

   1. LEED experience on projects  (Roxie Wyandt)
   2. RE: LEED experience on projects (Muscoe)
   3. FW: Big Green: LEED experience on projects  (Ralph Bicknese)
   4. IAQ in underground parking garages  (sagefarm at comcast.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:04:38 -0700
From: "Roxie Wyandt" <rwyandt at bellingham-marine.com>
Subject: Big Green: LEED experience on projects
To: <biggreen at lists.biggreen.org>
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Has anyone had experience with the development of or been an advocate
for a green project that does not include an enclosed building space?

There are many segments of the construction industry outside the
building design segment that can incorporate a number of the LEED or
other green build program criteria.  However; from my experience getting
these projects certified by a green build program (whether it be LEED or
other regional green build program) is difficult (if not impossible)
since they do not meet the prerequisites that deal specifically with
enclosed buildings.

Does anyone know if LEED or other programs are moving toward development
of a program that addresses the unique needs of projects such as roads,
ports, marinas, parks, parkways, etc....?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
Roxie


Roxie Wyandt
Manager of Business Enhancement
Bellingham Marine
The World's Most Comprehensive Marina Builder
PO Box 8, Bellingham, WA 98226
direct line 360.392.1428
fax 360.734.2417
www.bellingham-marine.com

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:37:29 -0400
From: "Muscoe" <muscoe at hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Big Green: LEED experience on projects
To: "'Roxie Wyandt'" <rwyandt at bellingham-marine.com>,
             <biggreen at lists.biggreen.org>
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you might check out the Sustainable Sites Inititative
http://www.sustainablesites.org/



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From: biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org
[mailto:biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org] On Behalf Of Roxie Wyandt
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 1:05 PM
To: biggreen at lists.biggreen.org
Subject: Big Green: LEED experience on projects



Has anyone had experience with the development of or been an advocate for a
green project that does not include an enclosed building space?

There are many segments of the construction industry outside the building
design segment that can incorporate a number of the LEED or other green
build program criteria.  However; from my experience getting these projects
certified by a green build program (whether it be LEED or other regional
green build program) is difficult (if not impossible) since they do not
meet
the prerequisites that deal specifically with enclosed buildings.

Does anyone know if LEED or other programs are moving toward development of
a program that addresses the unique needs of projects such as roads, ports,
marinas, parks, parkways, etc..?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
Roxie


Roxie Wyandt
Manager of Business Enhancement
Bellingham Marine
The World's Most Comprehensive Marina Builder
PO Box 8, Bellingham, WA 98226
direct line 360.392.1428
fax 360.734.2417
 <file://www.bellingham-marine.com> www.bellingham-marine.com

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:43:54 -0500
From: "Ralph Bicknese" <rbicknese at hellmuth-bicknese.com>
Subject: FW: Big Green: LEED experience on projects
To: <biggreen at lists.biggreen.org>
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Yes!  The USGBC has been looking at LEED for parks, public works "outdoor"
projects, etc.  The ASLA has also been involved.  I do not know if you can
find info about this on the USGBC website or not. Not sure where this
stands
with the plan to reformulate all the LEED systems under 1 "bookshelf"
system
in 2009.



There is also the LEED for multiple buildings & campuses application guide
that is typically used as an overlay to LEED-NC but can also be used with
LEED-CS and possibly other LEED systems as well. This overlay helps with
bigger sites with multiple buildings but is still meant for building
projects with sitework.



LEED was just obtained on a parking garage in Santa Monica, CA. And we are
considering using it on an underground parking garage.



Cheers,

Ralph



Ralph Bicknese, AIA, LEED AP

hellmuth + bicknese architects

7211 manchester rd.

st. louis, mo 63143

t: 314.531.9901

f: 314.531.9902

c: 314.265.0517



h+b is a member of the US Green Building Council and the American Institute
of Architects







From: biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org
[mailto:biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org] On Behalf Of Roxie Wyandt
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:05 PM
To: biggreen at lists.biggreen.org
Subject: Big Green: LEED experience on projects



Has anyone had experience with the development of or been an advocate for a
green project that does not include an enclosed building space?

There are many segments of the construction industry outside the building
design segment that can incorporate a number of the LEED or other green
build program criteria.  However; from my experience getting these projects
certified by a green build program (whether it be LEED or other regional
green build program) is difficult (if not impossible) since they do not
meet
the prerequisites that deal specifically with enclosed buildings.

Does anyone know if LEED or other programs are moving toward development of
a program that addresses the unique needs of projects such as roads, ports,
marinas, parks, parkways, etc..?

Thanks in advance for your reply,
Roxie



Roxie Wyandt
Manager of Business Enhancement
Bellingham Marine
The World's Most Comprehensive Marina Builder
PO Box 8, Bellingham, WA 98226
direct line 360.392.1428
fax 360.734.2417
 <?file:///\\www.bellingham-marine.com> www.bellingham-marine.com

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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:16:42 +0000
From: sagefarm at comcast.net
Subject: Big Green: IAQ in underground parking garages
To: "Ralph Bicknese" <rbicknese at hellmuth-bicknese.com>,
             <biggreen at lists.biggreen.org>
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Dear Ralph:

Interesting thing to note about underground parking garages.

Sometimes monitoring and control using the detection of carbon monoxide is
used for demand controlled ventilation to balance the indoor air quality
with the energy use.

Unfortunately, relying just on carbon monoxide fails to dilute and remove
the other air contaminants from motor vehicles (e.g., unburned
hydrocarbons, aldehydes, etc.), but the simultaneous monitoring for both
carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide can be used to provide a healthier
indoor environment by being responsive to the presence of all of the cars,
as opposed to just those without a properly functioning catalytic converter
that is converting the carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide.

Sincerely,

David


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LIFE ENERGY ASSOCIATES
20 Darton Street
Concord, MA 01742-5710
www.LifeEnergyAssoc.com
978-369-5680

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From: "Ralph Bicknese" <rbicknese at hellmuth-bicknese.com>
> Yes!  The USGBC has been looking at LEED for parks, public works
"outdoor"
> projects, etc.  The ASLA has also been involved.  I do not know if you
can
> find info about this on the USGBC website or not. Not sure where this
stands
> with the plan to reformulate all the LEED systems under 1 "bookshelf"
system
> in 2009.
>
>
>
> There is also the LEED for multiple buildings & campuses application
guide
> that is typically used as an overlay to LEED-NC but can also be used with
> LEED-CS and possibly other LEED systems as well. This overlay helps with
> bigger sites with multiple buildings but is still meant for building
> projects with sitework.
>
>
>
> LEED was just obtained on a parking garage in Santa Monica, CA. And we
are
> considering using it on an underground parking garage.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> Ralph Bicknese, AIA, LEED AP
>
> hellmuth + bicknese architects
>
> 7211 manchester rd.
>
> st. louis, mo 63143
>
> t: 314.531.9901
>
> f: 314.531.9902
>
> c: 314.265.0517
>
>
>
> h+b is a member of the US Green Building Council and the American
Institute
> of Architects
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org
> [mailto:biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org] On Behalf Of Roxie Wyandt
> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:05 PM
> To: biggreen at lists.biggreen.org
> Subject: Big Green: LEED experience on projects
>
>
>
> Has anyone had experience with the development of or been an advocate for
a
> green project that does not include an enclosed building space?
>
> There are many segments of the construction industry outside the building
> design segment that can incorporate a number of the LEED or other green
> build program criteria.  However; from my experience getting these
projects
> certified by a green build program (whether it be LEED or other regional
> green build program) is difficult (if not impossible) since they do not
meet
> the prerequisites that deal specifically with enclosed buildings.
>
> Does anyone know if LEED or other programs are moving toward development
of
> a program that addresses the unique needs of projects such as roads,
ports,
> marinas, parks, parkways, etc..?
>
> Thanks in advance for your reply,
> Roxie
>
>
>
> Roxie Wyandt
> Manager of Business Enhancement
> Bellingham Marine
> The World's Most Comprehensive Marina Builder
> PO Box 8, Bellingham, WA 98226
> direct line 360.392.1428
> fax 360.734.2417
>  <?file:///\\www.bellingham-marine.com> www.bellingham-marine.com
>



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