Big Green: Building Envelope Commissioning (John E. Beeson)

Richard Keleher kel at rkeleher.com
Wed Nov 12 19:46:33 EST 2008


John,

I see that you have a reply from Terry Brennan, who is one of the 
premier experts on indoor air quality and on the building enclosure. I 
also would like to suggest that you contact the Building Enclosure 
Council in Michigan, which can be reached as follows:

BEC S.E. MICHIGAN
Tony Wolf, AIA, CCS, LEED AP
SmithGroup
500 Griswold, Suite 1700
Detroit, MI 48226
t 313.442.8176
f 313.442.8297
Tony.Wolf at SmithGroup.com
www.smithgroup.com
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Richard

 

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> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:52:47 -0500
> From: "Flamm, Harry" <hflamm at elkus-manfredi.com>
> Subject: Big Green: Epdm off-gasing
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> Greetings,
> Does anyone have knowledge (or direction to resources) regarding the off-gasing of "EPDM" window gasket insulation?  How does "neoprene" gasketing compare? 
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> Thanks,
> Harry Flamm
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> From: "John E. Beeson" <jbeeson at quinnevans.com>
> Subject: Big Green: Building envelope commissioning
> To: <biggreen at lists.biggreen.org>
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> Anyone had any experience with this?  
>
> We are installing a spray-on air-barrier within our building thermal
> envelope.  We'd like to ensure proper installation and some form of
> verification that it is working.
>
> For the basic wall areas, it seems straight forward: the spray-on
> air-barrier is continuous and complete.
>
> For other areas (penetrations, junctions, openings, etc), it seems
> harder to identify roles and responsibilities for verification of a
> continuous barrier.
>
> Anyone had experience with this?
>
> John
>
> P.S. Apologies for any cross postings.
>
> QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
>
> John E. Beeson, LEED AP
>
> 219 1/2 N. Main Street
> Ann Arbor, MI  48104
> jbeeson at quinnevans.com
> www.quinnevans.com
> d 734 926 0425
> v 734 663 5888
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> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:51:51 -0800
> From: "Hee, Konrad" <khee at zgf.com>
> Subject: RE: Big Green: Building envelope commissioning
> To: "John E. Beeson" <jbeeson at quinnevans.com>,
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> Check out the Air Barrier Association of America's Quality Assurance Program.
>
> KONRAD HEE CSI CDT, LEED(r) AP, ASSOC. AIA, SCIP AFFIL.
> ZIMMER GUNSUL FRASCA ARCHITECTS LLP / 925 FOURTH AVENUE, SUITE 2400, SEATTLE, WA 98104 / T 206.521.3509 F 206.623.7868 / khee at zgf.com / www.zgf.com
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> From: biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org [mailto:biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org] On Behalf Of John E. Beeson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:24 AM
> To: biggreen at lists.biggreen.org
> Subject: Big Green: Building envelope commissioning
>
>
> Anyone had any experience with this?
>
> We are installing a spray-on air-barrier within our building thermal envelope.  We'd like to ensure proper installation and some form of verification that it is working.
>
> For the basic wall areas, it seems straight forward: the spray-on air-barrier is continuous and complete.
>
> For other areas (penetrations, junctions, openings, etc), it seems harder to identify roles and responsibilities for verification of a continuous barrier.
>
> Anyone had experience with this?
>
> John
>
> P.S. Apologies for any cross postings.
>
> QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS
>
> John E. Beeson, LEED AP
>
> 219 1/2 N. Main Street
> Ann Arbor, MI  48104
> jbeeson at quinnevans.com
> www.quinnevans.com<file:///\\www.quinnevans.com>
> d 734 926 0425
> v 734 663 5888
> f 734 663 5044
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> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:58:47 -0500
> From: "Terry Brennan" <terry at camroden.com>
> Subject: RE: Big Green: Building envelope commissioning
> To: "'John E. Beeson'" <jbeeson at quinnevans.com>,
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> Hi folks,
>
>  
>
> I've had a fair amount of experience in both new buildings and existing
> buildings.  In existing buildings we're usually doing forensics on a failed
> building.  In new buildings we are usually involved in three phases - design
> assistance (helping the architect detail the intersections and get things in
> the specs and drawings), inspection and testing during construction (meeting
> with contractor, subs, CM; inspecting at critical events, documenting
> acceptable installation and areas where there are problems, documenting
> remedies;  this often will include testing a mock-up or the first corner
> room where wall and ceiling air barriers come together using fan
> pressurization and theatrical fog) and finally pressure testing the building
> to see whether the airtightness spec has been met and to identify any large
> air leaks that may result in future problems.
>
>  
>
> At this stage of the game there are often arguments about whose job it is to
> seal around the penetration, attach the roof system air barrier to the wall
> air barrier.  The specs and drawings may not be clear in some areas.  A lot
> depends on the interest the contractor has in learning how to make an
> airtight enclosure.
>
>  
>
> I have not written any articles on inspection but have a two part article on
> pressure testing large buildings in JBED summer 2007 and winter 2008.  JBED
> can be downloaded for free from the whole building design guide website.
>
>  
>
> Terry Brennan
>
>  
>
> From: biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org
> [mailto:biggreen-bounces at lists.biggreen.org] On Behalf Of John E. Beeson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 11:24 AM
> To: biggreen at lists.biggreen.org
> Subject: Big Green: Building envelope commissioning
>
>  
>
> Anyone had any experience with this?  
>
> We are installing a spray-on air-barrier within our building thermal
> envelope.  We'd like to ensure proper installation and some form of
> verification that it is working.
>
> For the basic wall areas, it seems straight forward: the spray-on
> air-barrier is continuous and complete. 
>
> For other areas (penetrations, junctions, openings, etc), it seems harder to
> identify roles and responsibilities for verification of a continuous
> barrier.
>
> Anyone had experience with this? 
>
> John 
>
> P.S. Apologies for any cross postings. 
>
> QUINN EVANS | ARCHITECTS 
>
> John E. Beeson, LEED AP 
>
> 219 1/2 N. Main Street 
> Ann Arbor, MI  48104 
> jbeeson at quinnevans.com 
>  <file:///\\www.quinnevans.com> www.quinnevans.com 
> d 734 926 0425 
> v 734 663 5888 
> f 734 663 5044 
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