Big Green: RE: Green Building Standard Reconstitution.
David Katz
dkatz at sustainable.on.ca
Sat Oct 18 13:36:40 EDT 2008
Hopefully this GREEN building effort will now invite the CABA IIBC
www.caba.org and other associations directly involved in Sustainable
Buildings to participate. How do we get the benefits of an integrated design
process without the participation of all those that ultimately contribute to
the building in a life cycle analysis and life cycle cost way.
David Katz
Building Intelligence Quotient Consortium
6 Morning Gloryway
Toronto Ontario
416-493-9232
dkatz at building-iq.com
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1. Green building code standard committee disbanded (Mark Piepkorn)
2. Re: Green building code standard committee disbanded (Nadav Malin)
3. Gulf Coast Green - three days left to submit speakers
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:35:43 -0400
From: Mark Piepkorn <mark at buildinggreen.com>
Subject: Big Green: Green building code standard committee disbanded
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A story's been posted on BuildingGreen.com that ASHRAE has
unexpectedly pulled the plug on the Standard 189 development
committee. This standard is supposed to be "a new minimum,
code-enforceable standard for green buildings." The USGBC and IES
have been working with ASHRAE on the project since 2006, and were
apparently ambushed by ASHRAE's decision to shake up the process.
From the article: "Speaking off the record, multiple sources
reported signs that ASHRAE had been influenced by various trade
associations, which were either unsupportive of ASHRAE's involvement
in a green building standard as an engineering association, or had
objections to basic premises of the standard, such as its approach to
various building materials."
Read the story at
http://www.buildinggreen.com/auth/article.cfm/2008/10/17/Uncertain-Future-fo
r-ASHRAE-Standard-189/
or
http://tinyurl.com/5bfvcb
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In the time since I wrote the preceding, one of the authors of the
story, Tristan Korthals Altes, posted this in the comments area
(where subscribers can add their thoughts to any content page of the
website) following the piece: "Since this article went online, we
spoke with Jeff Littleton, the executive v.p. for ASHRAE. He
emphasized ASHRAE's intention to reconstitute the committee,
potentially with many of the same members and possibly a few
additional ones, and to proceed with work on the standard. This
process is likely to take 30-45 days, he says. Whether or not the
standard continues on its current -- and fairly stringent -- course
will be up to the committee."
Good news, but I'm still concerned about some of the issues raised
about how and why this all transpired.
Mark Piepkorn
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:14:11 -0400
From: Nadav Malin <nadav at buildinggreen.com>
Subject: Re: Big Green: Green building code standard committee
disbanded
To: Big Green Listserve <biggreen at lists.biggreen.org>
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I worked with Tristan on this article--and I have to say that I'm not
entirely surprised that there was a shake-up given how aggressive the
draft standard was in many areas. But some accounts, just meeting the
standard would have met LEED-Silver or even Gold level equivalence.
But it's been hard to get anyone to say what really happened, behind
the scenes, that led to this drastic measure. If anyone has inside
knowledge or leads, please post a comment with the article so we can
all benefit from the insights!
Nadav
On Oct 17, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Mark Piepkorn wrote:
> A story's been posted on BuildingGreen.com that ASHRAE has
> unexpectedly pulled the plug on the Standard 189 development
> committee. This standard is supposed to be "a new minimum, code-
> enforceable standard for green buildings." The USGBC and IES have
> been working with ASHRAE on the project since 2006, and were
> apparently ambushed by ASHRAE's decision to shake up the process.
>
> From the article: "Speaking off the record, multiple sources
> reported signs that ASHRAE had been influenced by various trade
> associations, which were either unsupportive of ASHRAE's involvement
> in a green building standard as an engineering association, or had
> objections to basic premises of the standard, such as its approach
> to various building materials."
>
> Read the story at
>
http://www.buildinggreen.com/auth/article.cfm/2008/10/17/Uncertain-Future-fo
r-ASHRAE-Standard-189/
> or
> http://tinyurl.com/5bfvcb
>
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>
> In the time since I wrote the preceding, one of the authors of the
> story, Tristan Korthals Altes, posted this in the comments area
> (where subscribers can add their thoughts to any content page of the
> website) following the piece: "Since this article went online, we
> spoke with Jeff Littleton, the executive v.p. for ASHRAE. He
> emphasized ASHRAE's intention to reconstitute the committee,
> potentially with many of the same members and possibly a few
> additional ones, and to proceed with work on the standard. This
> process is likely to take 30-45 days, he says. Whether or not the
> standard continues on its current -- and fairly stringent -- course
> will be up to the committee."
>
> Good news, but I'm still concerned about some of the issues raised
> about how and why this all transpired.
>
>
> Mark Piepkorn
> mark at buildinggreen.com
> 802-257-7300 x 104
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> Brattleboro, VT 05301
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:11:36 -0500
From: "Filo Castore" <FCastore at abeldesigngroup.com>
Subject: Big Green: Gulf Coast Green - three days left to submit
speakers proposal
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